Hi, I got 2 no name Realtek 8139 cards that I can ping and even telnet (looping back) but I cannot set any routes I get this error: route add -net 10.2.0.1 SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument Any ideas? Herb -- Herb Rubin Pathfinders Software herbr@pfinders.com www.pfinders.com phone: 415 292-4935 fax: 415 292-4913